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by Mike Masnick


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Insider Trading Suspected In The Pirate Bay Sale

from the getting-weirder-every-day dept

The whole story of the supposed sale of The Pirate Bay gets odder and odder as more news comes out. Beyond the questionable business model the new owners are discussing, now comes the news that trading in GGF shares were halted prior to the transaction due to suspected insider trading. There was an unexplained bump in trading the week before the sale was announced, leading to suspicion that people were trading on non-public news. This could create more problems for GGF. On top of that, the stock exchange GGF is listed on is apparently already threatening GGF for owning The Pirate Bay, noting that it "wants to make sure that the companies that are traded on the list are managing legitimate businesses." Given the conviction against the four people associated with The Pirate Bay, their assertion is that it's not a legitimate business. Honestly, the story is somewhat surreal and feels quite like the trial itself: a lot of people not really taking things seriously.

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    Jul 1st, 2009 @ 7:23pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    As this one goes on, TPB guys are showing themselves more and more as the leading edge of nothing good.

    The "no longer Broke P" is laughing all the way to his private island, leaving the "torrent faithful" looking like a but of truly played fools.

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  • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 8:15pm
  • The Pirate Bay - Opinion

    Vote on the future of The Pirate Bay you would like to see! http://www.votetheday.com/pirate-bay/the-future-of-the-pirate-bay-413/

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  • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 8:21pm
  • by icon braindead (profile)

    Honestly, the story is somewhat surreal and feels quite like the trial itself: a lot of people not really taking things seriously.

    have you ever been to TPB? they use to have a section where they posted letter they received by companies asking them to remove that is copyrighted or threatening them to sue with the responses they sent. TBP staff always made fun of them in there replies.

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    • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 8:48pm
    • Re:

      by Anonymous Coward

      have you ever been to TPB? they use to have a section where they posted letter they received by companies asking them to remove that is copyrighted or threatening them to sue with the responses they sent. TBP staff always made fun of them in there replies.

      They were making fun of the idiots like who, like yourself, thought TPB had infringing material on it's site.

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    Jul 1st, 2009 @ 8:48pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Really? These guys seemed so upstanding! Solid role models, no?

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  • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 9:31pm
  • The simple lesson is

    by icon Dark Helmet (profile)

    ...there are no more good guys anymore. Anywhere. Ever.

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  • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 10:58pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    No more heroes anymore

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jul 1st, 2009 @ 11:22pm
  • by Leave TPB

    The Pirate Bay bubble explode, but I don't worry for them. Complete idiots will keep faith.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 12:46am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    We'll see what happens.

    Habius Corpus is back in effect. After all, the punishment must fit the non-crime that was committed in Sweden.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 3:06am
  • by Paul`

    Do what they want to TPB, torrent software is more mainstream thanks to them then ever before. If TPB goes down there are already a dozen sites that fill the same role just as well, if not better.

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  • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 4:29am
  • It's all a bit weird yes

    by Yeebok

    However from what I've read, the aim of the business model (per the BBC) was to make some form of legitimacy out of it and ensure that copyright holders got paid etc. It was a plausible, if unlikely read, but conversely, I'm not that gullible to not think there's some element of hype there.

    The only real solution to the overall stalemate is to find a way for P2P or a kindred sharing technology to generate revenue for the copyright holder of whatever is downloaded, but without requiring an actual purchase from the downloader. It'll take an apparently implausible business model to achieve that but I'd love to see -something- work.

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    • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 5:33am
    • Re: It's all a bit weird yes

      by Anonymous Coward

      The business model was a joke - charging ISPs to allow their users access? Please! it is a horribly inefficient model, with massive collection issues (worldwide) and no clear way to limit liability.

      It's a left field idea.

      Actually, if the insider trading thing has any legs, it might also be another one of TPB attitude things: Use the same attitude they took to copyright violation notices and apply it to the stock market. Come up with a plan, pre-buy a butt load of shares, get a whole bunch more shares as part of the "sale", and push out a bogus "business plan" that gets the market all excited for a few hours. Sell your shares off for the massive profit (they went up more than 50% in a single day), and you have all the ingredients for one of the most successful pump and dump operations.

      like I said before, BrokeP ain't broke anymore, between this cash and the money they piled away offshore, TPB guys ain't going to be suffering any time soon, unless they get charged with stock fraud, which is possible.

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      • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 6:40am
      • Re: Re: It's all a bit weird yes

        by icon Tor (profile)

        Please try to get the facts straight and not make things up.

        According to the available information Brokep doesn't get any money out of this deal. Why would the TPB guys be involved in stock fraud? (especially when they have very little money to invest)

        The business model wouldn't be based on allowing ISPs access but rather (one part of it at least) to optimize the traffic in the ISPs nets in order to reduce their costs.

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        • Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 8:43am
        • Re: Re: Re: It's all a bit weird yes

          by Anonymous Coward

          Tor, seriously, you think they don't have money? I have heard of companies in the US who were buying ad space on TPB @ $xx,xxx per month - oh yeah, the payments don't go to sweden!

          Trust me - TPB guys made money, they made out good, and I wouldn't be shocked to find out they are some of the ones who pre-purchased stock in the company to make out like the bandits that they are.

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          • Jul 3rd, 2009 @ 7:55am
          • Re: Re: Re: Re: It's all a bit weird yes

            by Anonymous Coward

            "Trust me - "

            That doesn't fly. Unless you provide evidence, all you're doing is making baseless, anonymous accusations.

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 @ 6:45am
  • Works the Same or Better!

    by TPBer

    Funny how the Bay is up and running just as before and maybe it's just me but I am having better luck with the quality of torrents (downloading much faster) than before.

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  • Jul 3rd, 2009 @ 2:35am
  • HI

    by icon sara100 (profile)

    offer additional services, such as webcasts, online chat, telephone chat (VOIP}, and message boards. Some sites provide free registration, but may offer services which require a monthly fee. Other sites depend on advertising for their revenue.mls

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  • Jul 3rd, 2009 @ 2:38am
  • MLS

    by icon sara100 (profile)

    I like this site sara mls

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